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From Tragedy to Transformation

Maria Termotto-Horwitz Season 1 Episode 1

What happens when tragedy strikes at a young age, and how does it shape who we become? Maria's powerful journey begins with an unimaginable loss—finding her mother after suicide when she was just 13 years old. This pivotal moment set her on a winding path through grief, materialism, and eventually, a profound spiritual awakening.

Maria candidly shares her teenage transformation from designer-obsessed materialist to someone who literally threw away everything—expensive jewelry, designer clothes, and all worldly possessions—after a spiritual experience changed her heart. Her journey through extreme religiosity, finding balance, and eventually meeting her Jewish husband Josh creates a narrative that demonstrates how our deepest wounds can become our greatest purpose.

The most captivating moments come through the divine "coincidences" that marked major life transitions: butterflies that refused to fly away during their wedding ceremony, staying with guests for 30 minutes; an unexpected presidential suite upgrade on their honeymoon; and the conception of their daughter Genesee on the exact day Josh experienced profound healing from past regrets while atop a mountain in Colorado. These moments transformed their understanding of faith and family.

Perhaps most remarkable is how Maria and Josh bridged their Catholic and Jewish backgrounds not through compromise, but through a shared journey of discovery—setting aside preconceptions to study scripture together with fresh eyes. Josh's unexpected vision of Jesus at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem marks a turning point that defies explanation but affirms their path.

This raw conversation offers hope that even our darkest moments can be redeemed. How might your own story of pain be transformed into purpose? Listen and discover the possibility of beauty emerging from brokenness.

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, so let's start at the beginning, because I do really want to get to know you guys better and your story, and so, at the beginning, do you want to start at the beginning of your story? Sure, okay, because that would be really amazing. What do you think would be the most impactful thing to you from a young age that pops into your mind yes, that has like transformed who you are today. Most impactful thing that happened to me at a young age that pops into your mind yes, that has like transformed who you are today.

Speaker 2:

Most impactful thing that happened to me at a young age.

Speaker 1:

That's kind of made you who you are today.

Speaker 2:

Well, obviously, my mom's death was a very impactful thing. I'm just trying to think, if there was something that happened prior to that, prior to 13, what would that be? Actually, one of my earliest really profound stories is that when we were in fourth or fifth grade at St Clair School, we were tasked in art class to put together a mosh board a collection of things that interest us and different girls were doing like a ballerina board, others were doing soccer boards, the guys were doing football or whatever they were into, and my board it was heaven. There was angels on it, there was clouds, there was crosses, like that's it, and whenever I was asked what my goals were, my only response from a young age was go to heaven.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So when you made your board and it was all about heaven, where do you think that desire came from? Like, did your mom talk to you about heaven a lot, or because that's unique for a 10 year old?

Speaker 2:

Definitely. She would always talk about God all the car rides to school. Away from school, we were always praying together. We would do our evening prayers, we would do prayer before meals. So she's she always infused the atmosphere with that, even though she was a newbie to the faith too. I mean, she was raised with that, she was learning alongside us and always going to church. After dropping us off at school. She would be in mass next door.

Speaker 1:

That is really cool, and so how do you think coming up with that when you were so young, how do you see that now as like a thread throughout your life?

Speaker 2:

And I just see her presence, you know, always with me. You know, after she died it's like I bottled up all of that and just put it on a top shelf in my life and I just really didn't think or talk about her too much for like 10 years. And it wasn't until I was in my twenties that that I started talking about her dying, me walking in on that scene of her on the bed, her chest heaving in and out, and she had pulled the trigger and it was right in the heart and I mean that's pretty traumatic for a young mind to see that Any mind at any age.

Speaker 1:

That's traumatic, yeah, and not knowing she was dealing with that right out of nowhere, shocking. But now when I looked back on it, heard it. That's when you what that's why you walked in.

Speaker 2:

So two days before she died, my brothers I'm sorry, my brothers and I were in the car and she asked us if we would be okay if she died. And I said, why are you asking? That's never going to happen. And then she was just very quiet and we just carried on with the day and I didn't think anything of it.

Speaker 2:

And this was two days after Thanksgiving and it was Monday after Thanksgiving and it was 6 am and my dad had left to go to 6 am morning mass and my mom called him to come back home and my little brother was with my mom in the room and she told him to like go in the other room that there was a deer, and like go see the deer through the window or something. And at that moment my dad opened the front door to come back home and when he closed the door she pulled the trigger and he thought a chandelier had fallen. So he's looking around the house and then he goes to the room and he sees her on the bed heaving in and out. And then my brothers, max, went and woke Michael up and then Michael and Max were pounding on my door and I was so like disoriented and, um, I went over to the room and it just reeks of gunpowder and it was just not a great smell. And I see her on the bed and my dad's on the phone with the paramedics and I like that.

Speaker 2:

I've never had time stand still like that and it just froze. And I like that. I've never had time stand still like that and it just froze. And I'm just like what the heck? Yeah, so then we were. The cops finally came and then I had the opportunity to sit down at the piano this piano right here and I played her a farewell song and at that time my favorite piano song was called Adila. The lyrics to it go Adila means you are far above me, very far, adila, as distant as the lovely evening star. When you walk, flowers bloom. When you smile, all the bloom turns to sunshine and I know in my heart something died. But I see you smile and it comes alive, something like that Crazy.

Speaker 1:

Isn't it amazing how God prepares us for things before they happen, in those little seeds that were planted to help you deal and cope with like the trauma and difficulty and like losing your mom, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he's in the details.

Speaker 1:

You know when I was thinking too, when you were saying how you just wanted to see heaven. It made me think of the verse where Jesus is like not your will but my will be done, and essentially to like bring heaven to earth, to see heaven on earth. That's what we're called to do. Right Is to see his will be done on earth, and so I think that's really beautiful too, but you have to have a picture of what heaven is in order to be able to see that here. So that's really neat. I love that. Yeah, okay, so 10 and then 13. And so then, what did your life look like, or what things happened, you know, in your high school years? How was that and how did that help you develop into where you are right now?

Speaker 2:

Yes. So after she passed, we were in school for a few more years and I was just getting more and more materialistic. Like I was really into the all the designer brands Burberry, louis vuitton and all these things that you know. Now I'm like super girly girl, but, yeah, I was getting that way for the wrong reasons. Like I was judging how, how popular a girl could be by like a dollar tag of what she's wearing, like just not the right things, yeah. And then you know straightening my hair every day and like so concerned about vanity that my dad would drop me off at school in the morning and I would literally go to the bathroom with 10 pins, pin my shorts up at least two or three inches so that it's more bootylicious, yeah, and put some makeup on and it just wasn't, wasn't, wasn't great, and um. So after a few more years if you only knew, right. Oh.

Speaker 2:

And then when I was 16 years old this is, this is a good story. Never again will I ever say this but I was laying on my bed and I was just like reflecting on how good my life was. I loved my little boyfriend in school. We were together for a whole two months and my dad was paying me a hundred dollars a week to do tax stuff, pay the bills, do the mail, keep the house in order, and I had all the designer stuff I wanted. And I remember just laying there just thinking how cool I was, how great I was. You got it made. I got it made. I made it like I'm living life. I'm a straight, a student. You know, I'm the top of my class, I'm a class president. God humbled me. The very next day I'm called into the principal's office and they tell me that my boyfriend, who I just loved, was sending inappropriate pictures of himself to a ninth grader.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, and the whole school knew about it and I wasn't so embarrassed like for myself, but it was just like embarrassing that this is a man who I thought I could marry and then he did that. And then I made this little song and I gave it to him and it said I gave you my heart and you tore it apart. I gave you my hand to hold and you gave it to him. And it said I gave you my heart and you tore it apart. I gave you my hand to hold and you threw it in the cold. Like what you do to me. What you do has left me bleeding, cut right through. The time I waste, the time I spent has taught me a lesson I'll never forget that you cannot trust a person or give them your heart, because they'll only give you the power to tear you apart. Like it was dark.

Speaker 1:

That's deep though, but you like, felt it and you weren't afraid to feel the things you know. So after that year we were homeschooled but also probably life-changing for you. Yeah, no, that was a life-changing moment To feel and to say those things. You can't trust anybody, essentially 100%. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That set me on a course that, like I, can't trust anybody Right. So after that we were homeschooled and it was during by your dad. My dad was working. He's not homeschooling us for anything. He put me in charge of making sure my brothers and I are homeschooled.

Speaker 1:

You were homeschooling yourself and your siblings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And doing all the things, house things, keeping the house, doing the dishes, doing the laundry, all the things. Why did he decide to homeschool you? My dad never believed in school.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

He saw it as a institution that was just man-made. It wasn't the way. Waste of time. Waste of time that you learn nothing. And then he's very entrepreneurial, okay, and he just saw it as a giant waste of time that you learn nothing. And then he's very entrepreneurial and he just saw it as a giant waste of time.

Speaker 1:

And so he thought if my daughter's capable, why would I keep doing this?

Speaker 2:

And he didn't trust anybody, so he never wanted to bring in an outsider. The one person he hired for short term to like, teach us stuff, he wasn't great. So my dad has trust issues, but he also just screws people every chance he gets too. So it's his trust issues because he's not trustworthy. Yeah, so I was listening to the Bible audio one day in my room on CD. I know right, how was it back then In my room On CD? I know right, how was it back then? So I remember listening to an epistle and then this it just came over me like a giant wave that I wanted to give my life to Christ. And so I literally took three giant trash bags and emptied my closet Everything. I threw away a $250 Tiffany bracelet the one that looks really pretty with the big heart where the heart is the clasp. I threw that away. I threw away the matching heart earrings that go with it. I threw away all the Tory Burch sandals, all the coach shoes, all the Louis Vuitton belt bags, all my jeans, all my tight clothes.

Speaker 1:

You didn't have any appropriate jeans, so you had to get rid of all of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, it's not like they were inappropriate, it's just I felt convicted, I just had to. It was the old way of doing things. Yeah, I needed a clean slate and I just needed to start over. That's cool, yeah. So I threw everything away. And then I went to the other far spectrum. So I became so religious and so quote unquote, holy, and I was devouring the lives of the saints. And how did the saints live? And oh, they chastised themselves. Oh, they were fasting, oh, they were doing this, and I was becoming like a nun. But that wasn't appropriate because I was not a nun and I tried to get my whole family to take this oath of purity and obedience and poverty without asking their permission and just like throwing it in with our normal prayers. So it's just it went.

Speaker 1:

It was good for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm like yes, we all need to take a vow of purity for the rest of our lives. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? But like not even telling them it before, I suck it in with our everyday prayers, stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know. So then there's like kind of a spirit of control, maybe, you know, trying to like get them to do it without them actually wanting to.

Speaker 2:

Or just thinking that this is the way.

Speaker 1:

Like well, and you were kind of forced to be the leader, and your siblings too, so this was your way of leading them in the way that they should go.

Speaker 2:

And it also didn't help that I had a board in my room that said Feast of Trumpets, feast of Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles, with a countdown for when I thought the end of the world would be, and I remember the date it was September 2013,. And then October 2013,. And then October 2013 for the three feasts in line, and believing that the end of the world is imminent, and counting down the days and every day, I would put the number, the new number. It's really. I mean, how can you live your life that way?

Speaker 1:

Right, right. But you also have had such a personal experience with life ending yeah, too, with your mom that in a way, like it makes sense. You're probably you could have been thinking I'm gonna make the most of every day because you don't know when life is gonna to be over.

Speaker 2:

And, speaking of that, my uncle. So my uncle was the golden boy of Palm Beach County. He was the owner of Illustrated Properties and he was following in his dad's footsteps my grandfather.

Speaker 1:

Bud.

Speaker 2:

Adams, who was arguably, like you know, a pillar in the community Right, and my uncle was going down a slippery slope with fornication, adultery, drugs, alcohol. So on Christmas, when I was a teenager I forget exactly what year it was, it could have been oh, oh, I know it's 2012. This was December, christmas of 2012. And he was making fun of me because he knew I was holy roly and he's like oh, the end of the world was supposed to happen December 12th, 2012, according to the Mayan calendar. And guess what? We're still here and I just looked at him and this is my earliest prophecy that I can remember. The prophetic came over me and I said it doesn't matter when the end of the world is. All that matters is your end. You can get into a car accident and it'll all be over. And seven days after that, he was driving home at 4 am from Rachel's strip club and he was getting off at 95 and PGA and he jumped the median and he crashed into a tree and was thrown from the car and died on impact. Wow, and right before that happened, he texted his wife, who he was cheating on, and said I'm sorry, I love you. Wow, I couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2:

That's my earliest memory of, and how old were you when that happened 2012. So today, because we said you were in high school, today's 2025 minus 2012, so it's at 13. Right, that's 13 years. Yeah, so I'm 33 this year. So, minus 13 years. So I would have been 20. Yeah, it was 20, yeah, okay. Yeah, you know, I always felt younger than what I remember, because even now I feel young and I'm about to be 33, you know. So I was 20 when I said that.

Speaker 1:

Wow yeah.

Speaker 2:

And after he died.

Speaker 1:

How did that affect you? Saying that a week later that happening, how did you feel?

Speaker 2:

Well, I was just shocked and you know it just confirmed that you don't mess with God and get away with it Like and that shook me to the core, Like you don't make a fool out of God. And he was a mocker and, knowing what I know of the Bible and reading the Bible, the Bible doesn't play with mockers and scorners Like God will.

Speaker 1:

Like literally opened the earth and like Swallow you up, yeah.

Speaker 2:

He's done it many times Right.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, wow, so from there then you. When did you start working at illustrated properties?

Speaker 2:

Yep, so I got my license when I was 18, but I didn't do anything with it.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

My grandfather's culture was just not the culture I wanted to be part of. So when I was 21, I started working at a local gym. I met my first boyfriend. They were Pentecostals and they were very anti-Catholic. So I did get persecuted because of my Catholic upbringing and it just wasn't an appropriate way. Like I'm, I'm best friends with Pentecostals today and they're different than those Pentecostals, so it just wasn't a healthy relationship. You know, I my mom raised me to believe that sex is good in marriage, but then it's got a twisty when I saw my dad sleeping with our nannies and he didn't care about that.

Speaker 2:

So I'm like okay, I'll start sleeping with this guy because he loves me and my family doesn't love me. So I started sleeping with him and I was a coach. We were selling Herbalife products and then, after I realized like no, this is wrong I found this traditional Catholic church. I started going to mass again because it really tripped us up. When I was 18 years old, I stumbled across this website that talked about the fall of the Catholic church and how today's Catholic church is not the Catholic church of 100 years ago and how, after Vatican II, a lot of changes happened and it's not pretty. So our family was going to Catholic mass every single day and from watching those videos, we all stopped going and for me it led to this much better life, but for my family it wasn't great for another 10 years.

Speaker 1:

So your family? You learned more about the current modern Catholic church and for you, it set you off on a better trajectory, but your family not so much.

Speaker 2:

So I still thought that I needed to get back to the traditional Catholic church. So I found what that looks like. Yeah, so I found some traditional churches. I actually went to a fair retreat in New York at a nunnery of traditional Catholic priests and nuns. It was a three-day silent retreat. Wow, I did when I was like 22. Wow, and then again at 23. That's pretty incredible. Three days of silence. How was that? It was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. Yeah, it was amazing. It was amazing.

Speaker 2:

As a mom of three boys, I'm like send me to that please. It was awesome. I just saw, you know, 70 nuns living their best life on fire for Jesus. I saw all these girls on the retreat there was probably 50 of us and just seeing how they did their day, how they all worked and lived and grew in community, how they did good, how they were teaching classes, how they were building things and how they're praising God and it was beautiful. You know, I I do believe that all these different, you know denominations there is a path to holiness. It's just when you become a hypocrite, in whatever path you're on, that the door of hell swings open. And same with the jews.

Speaker 1:

You know there's so many hypocritical jews, it's ridiculous but in every religion really, I feel like anything you're doing, there's going to be hypocrites, but I feel like, when it boils down to it, finding j Jesus. Like you said, if you seek me, you'll find me. Yes, you know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so I would go to the traditional Catholic church and the one I was going to was in Boynton. Okay, so I would travel from Palm Beach Gardens to Boynton almost daily. I was friends with this 80-year-old guy who lived right down the street. He would meet me at the church and open the door so I can go in and just be alone with God almost daily. And that led to me just, I would write all these things, I would come up with all these great ideas to kick me off of my real estate business. It was just really special, precious time with God, cause, first of all, god's everywhere, so of course he's in the Catholic church. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know yeah. But before anywhere a bar, a church, anything, yeah, Anything and everything, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And the toilet a lot of people find them in the shower. Yeah, you know, most of the time he's hiding behind the couch, like right in the living room. So I was once. I got more into that. My ex-boyfriend just fell away like that wasn't, yeah, wasn't right. And then I went from the fine plan to the fire because the owner of the gym that I was working at because in the transition from saying goodbye to that boyfriend, I started working at a gym right around the corner and that gym owner just had his breakup with his ex and I just had my breakup with my ex and it was the most convenient relationship to fall into and we said we were best friends but in reality we had zero business being together. And that quickly fizzled away because I told him from the beginning of our relationship I didn't want to do oral sex. I didn't feel like that was my calling in the bedroom, and the way you know a relationship is not for you is if they pressure you to do things that you-.

Speaker 1:

You've already set a boundary on yeah, because then there's no respect there either. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that was a red flag and the fact that he wanted to pressure me to have sex, even though I was trying to save myself now as a born again virgin Right and confessing every time we did have sex I would go in the confessional with the priest and confess it. So it was really annoying to have to confess it Difficult.

Speaker 2:

Every week I'm like God, I can't keep doing this. I can't keep Right. I don't want to keep doing this. Yeah, I'll be one of those Catholics who just confess on the morning and then get their Eucharist and goes back to sinning. I didn't want to be that guy. Right, right.

Speaker 1:

Because that is like the hypocrite thing. Then, yes, is worshiping self and what you want and you know, not putting God first and what he wants for you.

Speaker 2:

Right. So here I am putting, trying to put God first. Trying to, but my flesh is warring with me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the guy keeps pulling me down, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then I was looking around in the Catholic church. I'm seeing all these families with four plus kids. Most two of them have like 10 kids each. Right, and they run their house with, yeah, excellence. Yeah, it's amazing, and I would. I felt so alone in this period of my life because no one wants to be, no one wants to come with me to mass. First of all, I brought my brother once, my now husband once and my girlfriend once, and they all said it was the most boring thing on earth, cause, first of all, it's in Latin, yeah. Second of all, the sermons. The sermons were really bad, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I've been to a mass once, with like childhood friends, once or twice maybe, but yeah, I remember a lot of sitting and standing and then all of us, you know, walking through the center aisle to the priest to do the blessings for communion. Yes, yeah, but I remember, for me it was a very different experience, but it also just felt very like stale, I don't know. Right, not much personality, right, yeah, not, I mean not to say.

Speaker 2:

And there's tons of Catholics who you know are on fire for God. There's tons of Catholic saints that have done public miracles. Yes, Like Bernadette with Lawrence and the healing water that people literally go there from all over the world in France and they leave their canes, they leave their wheelchairs and there's a mountain of wheelchairs of people who have been healed. That's cool. So God can work miracles in anything, right?

Speaker 1:

Even today.

Speaker 2:

Yes, especially today.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, which we've seen, which is so cool. What miracles have you experienced in your own life? Oh man, that's such a good question.

Speaker 2:

The first miracle is my husband. Okay, which?

Speaker 1:

is kind of where we're at in the timeline.

Speaker 2:

So the day my ex and I broke up the gym owner, I started talking to Josh in the office because that was a transition of me wanting to be a full-time realtor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were like I need to do something different here From helping people get their best body ever to get their best home ever Perfect. And then I saw Josh in the office and instantly he saw me come in to a luxury event and he zeroed it on me like a hawk. He was like that girl, he's like that's mine. And he found out that I had a boyfriend. He was like, oh okay, and he just kind of kept his distance. And then, would you know that I signed up for the office. The office manager told him I had a boyfriend because she noticed him looking. And then Josh's dad just so happened to be my favorite guy in the world real quick. I thought his teaching style on how to be an all-star rail leader was phenomenal. I learned so much from him in such a short period of time. That's really cool. And then one day his dad was teaching a class and I was in it and Josh stuck his head in the room, said some smart comment and I was like who's that? And the guy caught your attention. Yeah, his dad's like, oh, that's my. And I was like, who's that? And the guy. His dad's like, oh, that's my son. I'm like I didn't know you had a son. So that's funny.

Speaker 2:

The day that the ex and I broke up, I saw Josh in the office. I'm like, what exactly do you do around here with the same attitude. And he's like I am the director of the so-and-so team. I'm like, oh, I heard of that team. I'm interested in joining. He's like we just don't hire anybody. And I looked at him. I'm like you're going to hire me. So I set my desk up next to his in our little office with two other people. They loved me, they thought I was a go-getter. So we scheduled the interview for that Friday. So for three hours Josh is interviewing me to be on the team and we're just having a ball of a time laughing and I'm so free. I'm single, I'm me, I'm not. I'm not trying to flirt, but it's just, I'm just having fun, yeah, so then we finished the interview. It's late, it's getting late, and then my girlfriend, who I went to middle school with, my girlfriend who I went to middle school with she invites me to go to Angry Moon Cafe in North Palm. That's a cigar bar.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was like that sounds familiar, but yeah, that's where our property is at. Our commercial property is in North Palm.

Speaker 2:

Oh, no way. Yeah, off North Lake, can't wait to get jive and dive into all that. Yeah, I don't go to cigar bars. But I randomly turned to him. He was there the night before, so I invite him to come with us. And he's like, oh, I was just there the night before, but, yeah, I'll go. He heard something screaming at him go, go, go. So he's in the car following me behind me and I noticed my gas is super low and I'm like I'll make it so again. The turnpike going North from West Palm I'm not making it. My car is pooping out. I'm right, I'm, everything's rattling. I have to pull off on the turn.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh. And your car just kind of locks up when that happens.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't do anything except get off to the side, yeah. So I called Josh. I'm like, hey, a lot of lights are flashing. I can't move the car. I think I'm at a gas. And he's like, don't fear, I have a gas can in the back of my truck, I'll be right there. So he picks me up. We go fill up the gas tank. By the time we're getting back to my car, we're naming our future children.

Speaker 1:

So it went real quick.

Speaker 2:

Next day. That's fantastic. At the gym we're doing like our last team meeting with my ex. I say goodbye to everybody. I meet Josh walking distance from the gym at Hobby Lobby on Earth Lake, and we have such a fun time with my girlfriend Sarah. Wait, what were you working at Palm Beach County Boot Camp? Okay, it's closed now. Yeah, we have a romantic walk down every single aisle of Hobby Lobby having the best of time. Yeah, my friend got tired so she went home and Josh and I went to Frigates for our first date. That's a nice spot, mm-hmm, and we're getting kind of cozy together now, mm-hmm. And then on the water Sitting on the dock, yeah, resting my head on his shoulder, oh, so cute. We get back to my car and now I'm jiggling my keys and then, before you know it, we're sharing a first kiss in the lobby of hobby lobby. In the lobby, no, in the parking lot of frigates. In the parking lot of hobby lobby, because we took one part of frigates. Oh, okay, okay okay, so sweet and then next day.

Speaker 2:

So it's just like back to back yes, next, yes, next day we go see my friend Jeannie, the same one who invited me to the cigar park. She's like testing him now. She invited us down to the W Hotel down in Fort Lauderdale so we drive down together and she said, go in the valet line. So I go to the valet line and Josh paid for it and that was like her test, to see if he's a real man, is he a gentleman or not? If he's a gentleman or not, yeah, and he was.

Speaker 1:

That's good because, like, when things move quick you do have to kind of test. You need to test the character a bit.

Speaker 2:

And Josh bought my friend a gift that's sweet Like some cigars that's sweet and she loved that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Cause she's like he gave it Cause he's prioritizing your friends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's prioritizing my friends. So we had a great time at the W and then we see the most gorgeous sunset on the way home and then in the lobby of the office I pull out a new piece of paper and I put on the top best boyfriend ever qualification, and I told him I'm going to interview you now. So he gave me his full name eye color, height nationality, because we're like wait a second.

Speaker 1:

we got to like get the basics down. This is moving quick. I already said I'm going to marry you.

Speaker 2:

I like you yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I need to like learn the basics here.

Speaker 2:

So I said why should I hire you to be my boyfriend? Yeah, and he gave me 30 answers, 30 reasons why I should hire him. Nice, and then he did the same for me. Uh-huh, and then we did. I like that, though A rating system. I said, on a scale of one to 10, how much do you see us working out? And he gave it a 10. I said, on a scale of one to 10, how much do you love me? He gave a 10. And then I said, on a scale of one to 10, how much do I annoy you? And he gave it a zero. Then he was like okay, I won. And then we wrote-.

Speaker 1:

At least you didn't say 10 again.

Speaker 2:

No, that would have been a red flag. And then we wrote each other acceptance letters. Red flag, yeah. And then we wrote each other acceptance letters. His letter to me said dear maria, I'm pleased to inform you that you've been selected to be my girlfriend. Your answers have deemed you a perfect match and I would hashtag love to spend my life with you, exo, exo, sincerely. Yours, joshua david horwitz, so sweet. And my letter dear Josh, you're hired, let's do this. And I read those letters at our wedding a few years later. So next day, monday, comes around. So this is like day four. Day four I'm walking into the office. My ex is there at the front desk all smug and he's like it's probably going to be a while till you start dating again. He doesn't know any of this and I looked at him right in the eyes and I said I already know the man I'm going to marry and I walked away.

Speaker 1:

Because you were like this happened, happened quick, but that's also like what we were just saying before we started talking here. God's timeline is often like so fast when it's the right thing, and when you're listening to his voice, because you were listening, you were like I need to leave the gym, I need to do something different with my life, and that can be scary and take courage to leave what you know and what you've been doing and the boyfriend that you had. But obedience right Blessing follows obedience. And so then, immediately, like Josh has been waiting for you and now, there he is, and it wasn't sunshine and rainbows.

Speaker 1:

Sure, it never is. Honestly, we all have sin in us. And then you get married and it's like, oh, someone else is there to see the sin and it comes out, and you don't realize it until you get married. I think Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So it bothered me very quickly that he's not a believer, obviously that you know he was raised Jewish and as long as you have a strong foundation I can work with it. But he didn't really have a strong foundation. He didn't know the basics on anything. How long did?

Speaker 1:

you date for, like, how long did it take from meeting to getting married? How long did you know each other for?

Speaker 2:

It was three years from when we met to when we got married.

Speaker 1:

And then, how did, like the newlyweds days go, beginning of your marriage go.

Speaker 2:

Beginning of your marriage. Yeah, so first I'll just rewind to um when we first got together. Okay, almost within weeks, if not the first two months, I'm suddenly tormented with doubt, fear, anxiety, like, oh no, this is not the man I need, because you were saying he didn't have the foundation, yeah, like spiritual foundation that you were wanting and had a desire for.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Correct.

Speaker 2:

So I asked him early on this is like a month or two into our relationship I said what would it take for you to believe in Jesus as the Messiah? And he said he's going to have to question. Yeah, so I want to know you know my guy can pray for that, yes, yeah. So he said straight up he's got to come down here, hit me upside the head and say, hey, little, it's me.

Speaker 1:

That's funny. It sounds kind of like my husband. He always he's like God has got to hit me right upside the head with it or else I'm still not sure you know Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I just was like, okay, I mean that's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, I can pray for that. Yeah, it's totally going to happen. Yeah. So even after I said that, though I'm feeling all sorts of things like is this the right man? Is this the right job? Did I make a terrible mistake? Is this not God's plan for me? Is Florida where I'm supposed to live?

Speaker 2:

Like I had all these questions in my head and I didn't have the answers that I was just tormented with doubt and anxiety and fear. And Josh saw me go from a vibrant, happy woman to just crippled with anxiety and fear and I would literally Panic attacks. It was just a deep depression. Okay, it was a deep depression and that got me worried, because after my mom committed suicide, I wasn't worried. I wasn't thinking that she didn't love me or something like that. I was thinking that maybe I would grow up to do the same. But that was my thought. Maybe this is something hereditary. You're in the back of your mind, yeah, so now I'm feeling very depressed and binge watching, I think, a stupid show on Netflix like just dumbest things.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and sometimes, when you're doing that, you don't even realize you're depressed, because it's almost just like numbing you which also numbs the depression feeling. You know, yeah, I remember.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyways it was a dark, dark time mentally. So I'm like I got to change something. And I was still going to the Catholic church and I said to myself I need to do a nine day prayer and fast. So I water films, three days juice. Three days water, three days juice. And Josh was leaving to go on a week long cruise. I got day so you were like with his brother, with his brother. So he was gone for the first six days of the fast he was gone. So I was just getting close to God, I was praying, I was seeking his face, I was looking for answers and then when Josh got back, he decided to do a three-day water fast with me and so we finished the fast together and God just graciously gave me the answer I was looking for. He's like yes, this is the right man, yes, this is the right career, just keep walking.

Speaker 1:

Right and I have all that documented. He confirms and he gives you the peace right, Because that's what you were seeking was peace. She's seeking peace.

Speaker 2:

And so our relationship goes on and during the fast, I signed myself up for the Landmark Forum, which is this transformational three-day experience of just digging into your past and taking what happened and the story that you made it mean and taking those things and separating them. So my story of my mom committed suicide, so maybe that means that I will grow up and do the same, so it just took that away.

Speaker 1:

From your identity and carrying that as a part of who you are is making it something that happened but not who you are. Correct, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then my relationship with my dad wasn't good at that time, so it started to rebuild that relationship. I would call him when I was at the forum and we'd talk, and it was actually during this time that I got my own apartment because I was still living at home.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm when I wasn't at my boyfriend's house, and so it's just a lot of wonderful things happened, personally, professionally, relationally after this event. So we met in 2018 and then end of 2018 going into 2019 is when he did the landmark forum and then 2019, we're still part of landmark and we start going to Hippocrates health Institute, which is a really great place in West Palm. So we're eating sprouts and he lost 30 pounds. And then COVID hits and my Josh and I move in with my grandma in North Palm and Lost Tree Village to help take care of her, because she had deep depression. She was losing her memory with dementia and it was just right.

Speaker 2:

It was a good thing for us to move in with her, and I didn't even know that COVID was going to really hit. So we were with her, all of COVID, and that was wonderful. And with her losing all three of her kids, it was great for us to be there. So this was your mom's mom, yes, so she lost my mom. She lost my aunt when I was born to bulimia, anorexia, throwing up in her toilet, wow. And then she lost my uncle when I was 20. Wow. So she would sometimes forget that I'm her granddaughter and sometimes call me her daughter, so it was nice for Josh and I to be there for her during COVID and during COVID and you were not married yet.

Speaker 2:

No, so we were living together in the apartment for a year, and then with your grandma, then with my grandma. So right before we moved in with my grandma, josh and I went to Israel together. So this is a month before COVID hits. This is October, november, at the Feast of Tabernacles, so there's the Sukkot and there's chuppahs everywhere and they're celebrating this giant feast. I didn't even plan it that way. God planned that that way. On that Israel trip we go to the Wailing Wall and it was on Josh's heart to bring this letter that his dad had wrote him the day he was born. So his dad was battling a lot of personal things and he wrote a letter to Josh that Josh was given when he was 21. And this letter carried so much grief and pain and it was a turning point in his dad's life.

Speaker 2:

So Josh felt that if he reads the letter in front of the wall, he can release his father from what he's holding on to and he can put it in the wall and pray for healing for his dad. So it's such a noble thing to do, right? So I have a recording of me, a recording of Josh reading this letter in front of the wall. Josh, crying, could barely read it because he's crying so much. And then Josh goes up to the wall and at the wall there's a separation between the women and the men, so the men go up alone, the women go up alone. And he went up to the wall. He read a chapter out of Genesis and then he puts his hands on the wall with his eyes closed, and guess who's waiting for him? When he closes his eyes, he sees Jesus.

Speaker 1:

What he said he would need to see Whoa.

Speaker 2:

And Jesus is talking to him, but he can't hear what he's saying. And he tells me what happened, this whole vision, but he's totally downplaying it. He's like probably a little freaked out. He's like it's moses, it's elijah I'm like they don't want to talk to you. There's nothing to tell you. I'm like if it's jesus and he knows it's jesus, but he didn't want to admit it. At that same time we started going to Calvary Church in Jupiter and during worship Josh was just like reading the words, just kind of trying to connect with the music, and he hears God tell him that his mission is to bring together the Jews and the Christians as one.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

So what Jesus was saying that he couldn't't hear?

Speaker 2:

he tied it to this moment. And then josh had, he had proposed to me and I had accepted it, but my dad did not accept it. My dad said, no, he doesn't believe in jesus, he doesn't, and he has tattoos, like those two things big no-nos. And it's just funny. Yeah, you know. Yeah. So my dad had a three-hour lecture on why I need to break up with him. Wow, and I'm crying. Right, josh had left because he called me 17 times. I didn't answer, so then he just left and then I call him when he got to my grandma's house and I said you got to come back and get me. So he drove another 30 minutes to come pick me up. He's so upset yeah, no, respect for my dad. And he's also upset at my dad because the month that Josh met me, my dad sleeps with that same girl that—.

Speaker 1:

And here Josh is living with your grandmother and taking care of her.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he sees my dad as a giant hypocrite, Right, right. So Josh says well, you know, I don't know too much about Jesus and I'm willing to go on this journey with you because I had suggested why don't we rediscover who God is together? I'll leave my Catholic mindset aside, you can leave your Jewish mindset aside, and we can just read the word of God and rediscover who he is together.

Speaker 1:

Just seek Him and see what he has for us. Yeah. And that was so powerful, which is beautiful because I know a lot of women who wouldn't do that. That was humility right there. Instead of saying I know who Jesus is, this is who he is, you have to follow. So that's really beautiful that you were like and really you were meeting him where he was at, which is Jesus to meet someone where they're at, to just say you know what, like, let's do this thing together, exactly. So that's really beautiful.

Speaker 2:

So, starting right there it was in November of 2020, we start reading three chapters a day of the Bible together. We started with Genesis. Three chapters a day keeps the devil away, that's right.

Speaker 2:

Three chapters a day keeps the devil away. So we started with one chapter of Genesis, one chapter of the book of Psal. We started with one chapter of genesis, one chapter of the book of psalms and one chapter of matthew, and we just kept going right and through that process of reading the bible three chapters a day. Josh found jesus and it was screaming on every page of the prophets of genesis, of exodus, leviticus, numbers, deuteronomy, and the veil on his face, the scales on his eyes came off, like he could see it, he could hear it, he could testify to his dad, who still can't hear it. But it was such a beautiful thing to witness a transformation take place, not from what I said, but from the Bible said what God's word did. So we got married on February 20th 2021. My dad walked me down the aisle, aw. So he came around and it was the most beautiful day of our lives. And my mom's little picture was on my flower bouquet. We had sunflowers there for her and there were so many special things about that day. On our wedding invitations we had this is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. And at the Airbnb we stayed at right before going to the wedding venue there was a plaque and it said this is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it. My wedding planner accidentally took it, so now I have it right here on my mantle. That's so funny.

Speaker 2:

I tried to get in touch with her to like send her money for it, but I think God just gave me a free wedding gift yeah, it was like his wedding favor for you Totally and my girlfriend Sarah. She had 100 butterflies that were frozen in little envelopes, individual envelopes, and this, this is a thing. This is a thing. This is a thing. You pass out these envelopes and it said on it you love mom and everyone opened these butterflies and this little butterfly comes out, and she didn't take the butterflies off the ice soon enough. So these butterflies are like drowsy and they don't fly away immediately. They literally sit on our hands for 30 minutes. Everyone in there got a butterfly on their hand for 30 minutes just hanging out with us and it was like God's presence was just there.

Speaker 2:

That's so cool. It was beautiful.

Speaker 1:

You know, what's ironic or God's timing, because I don't really think things are ironic is this morning we saw a butterfly hatch and it did the same thing. I have videos of the boys holding it. It didn't fly away, it stayed there, and so we, even like, left and went to the library. We came back, the butterfly was still there, yeah. So it was so amazing and I was wanting to do a reel to Forrest Frank's Lemonade song because, he posted and said, like can we make this number one?

Speaker 1:

And then this butterfly thing happens, right. And so I'm looking at, I'm looking up stuff about butterflies and how we can tie that to the song of like you are one thing and now you're a different thing, right, amazing. And now you're a different thing, right. And I learned that when the caterpillars go into the cocoon they become like goo, like their bodies have to like literally break down in order to become the butterfly. So I thought that that's beautiful, so I posted literally about that this morning in the videos of them with the butterflies this morning.

Speaker 2:

I didn't see it yet. I can't wait to see it. Like comment. Share obviously.

Speaker 1:

So it's just so crazy that you're saying that, and the same thing happened this morning, where the butterfly was just like chilling. God is in the details. Yeah, we all got to hold it, because it stayed.

Speaker 2:

I love that God is in the details, just like how the world says that the devil's in the details. We don't take that. We don't accept that we say God is in the details, god cares about everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he sees, he cares, he loves. The same way we love our children and care and see, and we care about the details. Of course God cares about it.

Speaker 2:

Even the birthday parties, and how meticulous we are to making sure that the party favors match the theme and the plates and the banners and the balloon arch and all the things. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing, god is so good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, that's beautiful that that happened with the butterflies.

Speaker 2:

And then get this, we leave the wedding and go to the W Hotel for our to stay for two nights before going to St Thomas, and St Thomas is where we actually bought our wedding rings the year before. Oh wow, we stayed on a private yacht and we bought the rings and we, we bought the rings and josh was actually going to propose march of 20 of 2020, but that's when covet hit.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so then we postpone him proposing to that november okay, so you go to the w hotel and then you go to well, at the w hotel they say I'm sorry, we accidentally booked your room so we're going to upgrade you to the presidential suite.

Speaker 2:

No way they took us to the penthouse the penthouse and it takes up half of the building. Oh my goodness, overlooking the ocean. Wow, we had two master suites. It's like 1200 square feet, holy cow. I, I mean, god's favor was heavy. Yeah, and it was the best day ever. Yeah, there was. I mean, it was just absolutely gorgeous. That's so awesome. And then so, leaving there, we went to St Thomas, st John, we had the best honeymoon. And then we come back my husband's expecting me to be pregnant on the honeymoon. So he's a little like he's ready for it. He's ready. You know he was 38 and he was just like ready to go Right.

Speaker 2:

And so now, like a few months past, I'm still not pregnant. He's thinking that this is God's judgment, like for all of his past sins. Yeah, and oh, I forgot to mention that right after we got engaged I caught him with pornography and I threw the ring at him because this was the second time I caught him and he promised Well, he publicly confessed his sin, he went to his family, he went to his friends On the landmark calls, he confessed. So he was done with that 100%.

Speaker 2:

We watched that video called brainheartworldorg, in which they do a deep dive on what the effects are on the brain, on the heart and on the world, and the story that they tell on the video clip is the story of the butterflies. Oh, wow, they say that the butterfly. They did a cutout of female butterflies, they made a 3d cutout and they made this butterfly bigger and more vibrant in color than the female butterflies. So when the males were released, they were attracted to the fake butterflies because it was more vibrant and more beautiful than the real butterflies, so much so that once they released the real female butterflies around them, the males did not want to mate with them. Wow, so that's crazy. So if you want to get like instant healing from it, just watch brainheartworldorg it is the best video in the world on how to overcome it and you'll realize how terrible this pitfall is, and it affects every aspect of society.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think something that I grew up hearing was that it would kind of be like a thorn in your side, like you would struggle with this for your whole life, and I think that is really entrapping, because Jesus sets you free. That doesn't mean you have to continue struggling with it. And the Bible says if we confess our sins and we pray for each other, we are healed, and so that's so incredible that he was publicly confessing, because I think I've seen in our own life that's where the healing happens and that's where the chains are truly broken, because growing up it was a lot of like you know, pray about it, but you're probably going to have to pray about it some more.

Speaker 2:

Right, you know. Or even gay lesbian, like they think that that's a thorn in their side, that they have to deal with it forever. Right it's not true Right.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a thorn in their side, that they have to deal with it forever. Right, it's not true, right? I think that's a lie from the devil. It's like yeah, you're always going to struggle with this sin. Good luck Correct, you know.

Speaker 2:

Correct. So Jesus came to give us abundant freedom, Right To be set free and a peace that surpasses all understanding. So after we got married and I'm not pregnant by month three, we go on a second third I forget the count now, but honeymoon to the Glen Erie Castle in Colorado Springs, and this is a gorgeous castle with mountains all around it. When I booked our room I didn't realize that it was the presidential suite of the castle, so we had to go up like a few different flights of stairs and up this winding staircase to the tallest tower in the castle. We walk in it's 180 degree view of the mountains so cool, Stunning.

Speaker 2:

It is the king's room in the castle and in our little marriage retreat we're praying over each other and one of our homework assignments was to go out and be alone with God. Josh went to this beautiful rose garden and he could just hear God say that he needs to forgive himself of his past abortions, himself of his past abortions. And another assignment was that we had to go out as a couple and find a rock that had a meaning to us and then do a show and tell with the class. So Josh and I decide to climb the tallest mountain that we could and I was in, literally sandals.

Speaker 1:

You guys are like overachievers, so it makes sense I was in Cole Hawn sandals.

Speaker 2:

Wow, like I wasn't ready for this yeah.

Speaker 2:

But my feet didn't hurt and we just went Right. So we got peak to peak, from glory to glory. We just keep climbing and then finally we're at the tallest mountain, like there's nowhere else to go. And there's this pile of rocks at the top of the mountain, like a whole little pile, and at the top of the pile there was this one rock. So we took it. We broke it. It broke in three pieces. So we took two pieces home for him and me, and the third piece, that was the God piece we left on the top of the mountain. That's cool. And on that hike he forgave himself of his past abortions. One of the abortions was with. It was twins, and one of them they would have named Joshua and one of them David, his first and middle name, and then the other one.

Speaker 2:

he just he already bought into the lie that the baby's not a baby.

Speaker 1:

You had just broken the rocks at the top of the mountain, so you're bringing them down to your group. And what did you say to everybody with your pieces?

Speaker 2:

That one piece we left up for God. The other two pieces are us and it was just a beautiful way to talk about how Christ is the rock of our marriage. And it just so happened that that night or the next morning I should say it was on 7-11 of 21 that our little Genesee was conceived, and leaving the castle, we were going to Genesee Mountain, which is where my friend lived, and my friend always felt my mom's presence. The second she met me and she acts like a mother figure in my life and going to Genesee Mountain to go see her, I had this thought that just came into my head like a thunderbolt and I thought, if I'm pregnant right now, genesee is the perfect name for a baby girl, and I looked it up. It means a beautiful, pleasant valley, it has Native American roots and it just so happens that Genesee is similar to Genesis in the Bible, so it's a new beginning of our family and Glen Eerie Genesee. There's so much cuteness to it and I always loved the name Genesis. So it turned out I was pregnant and the day I found out about it was tonight. Was today? Like was today? What's the date? August 8th, august 8th 2021.

Speaker 2:

At 10 PM, Josh was at his mom's house spending the night and I took a test, just on a whim, and I saw it said positive and I was just praising God, I was dancing and singing and I have it all recorded of when I saw it happen. I'm going to actually post it today. Tonight and the following morning at 1045 am, I had brought Josh to the room and I had a hidden camera set up and, josh, I had him read Psalm what is it? 94 or something where it says you've knit me in my mother's womb. I'm fearfully, wonderfully made. So I had him read that whole Psalm and then I asked him to pray over us and then I told him to flip to the back of the Bible and I had written in big letters you're going to be a daddy. And he just starts crying Cause he wanted it so much and it happened the day he forgave himself of his past abortions, like that's that. I mean, it doesn't matter how much we would have tried what pills or prenatals or whatever.

Speaker 2:

The right day, the right time yeah, life is given by god that's beautiful and I know we're running out of time and there's so much more to say, but we can always pick it up on another. It's gonna be part one yes, this is part one, yes, yes, of when little genesee, the start of little genesee, right, and it's just so funny because four or six weeks ago, whatever 7-Eleven was, it was four or five weeks ago. On that day, prophet Natalie spoke a prophecy over me and I felt the fire of the Holy Spirit come down and I just made the connection that four years ago, that day is when the Holy Spirit came down and created life within me, and now my public ministry life within me, and now my public ministry is taking, giving wings. And that was her prophecy. That's amazing. So it happened on the same day, four years later, and was today the day that the book was released.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and this last Sunday was August 3rd, and on August 3rd is my mom's 55th birthday and we were celebrating 20 years since her passing and we did a book launch of Blessed Beginnings. It was biblical wisdom through pregnancy and parenthood, and I didn't know, but that day in Jewish history had so much spiritual meaning. Spiritual meaning. Josh's father told me that this is the day, at 584 BC that the Babylonians destroyed the first temple, solomon's temple, and it's also the day in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed the temple. And many bad things in Jewish history, such as Haman's plot to destroy all the Israelites, is all on that day and it's Tisha B'Av, the ninth of Av. So I reveal this at our party we just had on Sunday and we all pray a prayer asking the Holy Spirit to come down and it just so happened that morning that the whole sermon at Christ Fellowship that 30,000 people heard was all about the Holy Spirit and having the Holy Spirit's power come down and having repentance and all about his peace.

Speaker 2:

So God is just in the details. And, kelsey, I met you the day before the party. Yeah, and you just so happened to know my sister-in-law and you have CEO kids and it's all about empowering the next generation. And you were able to come to the party with your lemonade stand set up, which was perfect. Her husband made a lemonade stand sign, whole kit caboodle, and it was beautiful. We got to have all of our drinks on that cart. So I just love how God is in the details. I'm looking forward to our next interview where I'm going to be interviewing Kelsey. We're going to get the lowdown on her story and all the big beautiful things God is doing in her life and it's been such an honor to get to know you more during this and this podcast. Actually just hit the ground running at 2 am last night and God just put on my heart like go live, spark it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's amazing, that's how he does it and you're obedient and then look blessings they just follow. Amazing.

Speaker 2:

We're recording this on a little iPhone, but next time we record we're going to have our whole kit and caboodle with our podcast studio equipment. So but you know, with God you don't have to have it to get started.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't have to be perfect.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to aim, then fire you, fire and God will aim you on the way.

Speaker 1:

Amen, I love it.

Speaker 2:

So, Kelsey, will you pray?

Speaker 1:

us up. Yes, father, god, we come before you today. Thank you so much for just anointing this meeting, this time together. I pray that you would bless everyone listening, that they would come to know you better because of it. We thank you so much that when we seek you, we find you, that you are in the details, that you care about all the little things, that you love us so well and that you love us better than any heavenly parent ever could, and that you fill in all the gaps when we fall short, you are there. So we pray blessings over Maria and her family, all of her children, future children, and this podcast and her ministry, in Jesus' name amen, amen, and may the double portion of blessing be upon you and your family In Jesus' name, amen.

Speaker 2:

Thank you guys for tuning in and stay tuned for our next episode. We're going to finish this story and then we're going to kick off Kelsey's testimony and get ready to spark it up, because spark is all about bringing together kingdom leaders. We're all individual sparks in our own way, but when we come together, we are a fire that is going to rock this world. For Jesus Christ, take care now, stay blessed.

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