SPARK: Igniting Faith, Family, and Revival
Spark is a faith-filled podcast igniting revival in families, communities, and hearts around the world. Hosted by Maria Termotto-Horwitz, each episode blends powerful testimonies, prophetic teaching, biblical wisdom, and real-life stories of God’s transforming power.
From breaking generational curses to walking in the gifts of the Holy Spirit, Maria equips you to live boldly for Christ, lead your family into deeper faith, and impact the world with the Gospel. You’ll hear inspiring personal stories, guest interviews, and prayers for healing, deliverance, and activation.
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SPARK: Igniting Faith, Family, and Revival
Arrows of Faith: A Mother's Journey to Home Education
What happens when God calls you to do something you swore you'd never do? For Candice Daniel Beck, a homeschool mom of four children ages 16, 12, and 10-year-old twins, that calling came unexpectedly during a mom's retreat where she first glimpsed what homeschooling could offer her family.
Though initially resistant, a series of troubling incidents at her children's Christian private school culminated in a traumatic breach of trust between her daughter and a teacher. This breaking point launched Candice's family into a home education journey that has completely transformed their lives. From the chaos of morning struggles and homework battles to peaceful mornings and the freedom to pursue God-given passions, the contrast couldn't be more striking.
The heart of this conversation explores how releasing the traditional school mindset opens extraordinary possibilities for children. Candice's teenage son, who once accused her of "ruining his life" by homeschooling him, now thrives as he pursues his calling in worship music, recently connecting with a mentor through an opportunity that traditional schooling would have never allowed. Her other children have discovered interests ranging from American Sign Language to entrepreneurship, all while developing remarkable social skills and confidence that strangers frequently comment on.
For mothers feeling the gentle tug toward homeschooling but doubting their abilities, Candice offers profound encouragement: "You don't have to be the Pinterest mom. You don't need teaching credentials. You've been teaching your children since birth." The key is knowing your "why," giving yourself abundant grace, and trusting that God will guide your journey. As she powerfully reminds us, breaking generational patterns of anxiety and educational pressure creates space for our children to become who they're truly meant to be.
Ready to explore whether home education might be right for your family? Listen as Candice shares both the challenges and triumphs of raising "arrows" to launch into the world – confident, faith-filled, and equipped with
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Welcome to Spark. I'm your host, maria Tremato-Horwitz, and tonight I'm joined by Kanyas Daniel Beck. She's a homeschool mama of four. She's a Kingdom Connector and a two-times bestselling author. Kanyas, welcome to the show. Thank you, maria, for having me. I am so excited for this conversation. We're going to get down and dirty in the details of motherhood, homeschooling and everything that's involved in that. So, candice, can you just start us from the beginning your homeschool journey, where you were, where you are, just paint the whole picture for us.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm a homeschool mom of four. My kiddos are 16, 12, and I have twins that are 10. And I finally got all of them into school and I was like, great, now I can work on all the things that God has for me. And then God had other plans. So to say that I was one of those moms that always said, oh, that is wonderful for every other mom, but that will never be me. Well, don't ever say never. And I've learned that throughout my entire life. I can definitely recall many, many things I said I would never do.
Speaker 2:And so I was invited by a friend, a dear friend. She invited me it was right after the epidemic and she invited me to a. It was a mom retreat. And I was like, yes. And she invited me to a. It was a mom retreat. And I was like, yes, I need that in my life. I'm going to go to this.
Speaker 2:And so I went to this mom retreat and I was surrounded by all of these stay at home or homeschool mamas and didn't really know what I was getting into when I went to this. I just needed the rest and relaxation, and away from my kiddos, and and God met me at that retreat and away from my kiddos. And God met me at that retreat. He met me in a really big way because I was admiring my friend's daughter's artwork on the wall and it was in that moment that God really just spoke to me in such a big way. I really knew that I wanted the lifestyle that they had. I wanted my family to replicate the love, the togetherness, the travel, the things that they got to do, because they were a homeschool family and had been homeschooling for years. And I had no idea that I actually had that desire. God planted that desire and that dream and that want in my heart that I didn't even know was there and so I kind of tucked it away. I had a great time and then went about our way.
Speaker 2:And then we had an event, multiple events that happened at the Christian private school that we were at the Christian private school we were at, we had had multiple things happen over the course of three or four years. When my little ones went into kindergarten, we just started having all these different things. The more that my oldest got into the older grade levels, the more we started realizing that it just it wasn't fitting our family anymore. The more we started realizing that it just wasn't fitting our family anymore, we really realized that it was really not being led by the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 1:That's a nice way to say it.
Speaker 2:It really was. We were noticing that our kids were just not thriving, our family wasn't thriving. My kids are very strong in their personalities. I know that I'm raising up some very strong leaders and I've known that since they were very little. They've always had discernment and just really amazing giftings, and so I knew they weren't working. In that I really said, you know, I just it wasn't working for our family anymore. We had some episodes and things that happened, and the final straw was when my daughter went through where she had lost all trust in her teachers, the number one people that she was supposed to be able to trust.
Speaker 2:Basically, what happened? Okay, so this is what happened. My daughter came home, told me that they were exposing her to chemicals and she has a very, very high allergic reaction to being around chemicals and she had been hospitalized twice over the course of one school year, from kindergarten to first grade, and so all of her teachers knew, the whole school knew, and they were really great about advocating for that up until this happened. What type of chemicals Cleaners, sanitizers, all the great things that you're not really it's really hard to be allergic to, especially through the pandemic, right? So the pandemic, yeah, the plan, exactly. So anyway, long story short, before the holidays she came home and I contacted the school. I contacted the principal. So what happened? Oh so one of her teachers was spraying Lysol in her classroom and my daughter obviously had been hospitalized before. So I knew that there was no way that she was going to make any of this up. So I did look into it, got through the holidays, came back.
Speaker 2:The first week we were back at school. What happened was well, first of all, they didn't want to go back to school, and so that tug on my heart of knowing that I should be homeschooling was getting a lot heavier, right. So we got back to school, ended up finding out she kept telling me and so I contacted the school again. They called us in. They were going to call us into a meeting, but we didn't make it that far. They called us in. They were going to call us into a meeting, but we didn't make it that far. This teacher came in and verbally attacked my daughter and made her so upset that she locked herself in a bathroom. Wow yeah, it was traumatizing and I had no idea. So I went to pick her up. That afternoon the principal had called me and told me that yes, she was in his office but didn't really tell me the whole story because they didn't really know what happened. He didn't know what happened at the time and so this happened on a Wednesday.
Speaker 2:We had to go through the entire weekend without any resolution to the situation, and the more the weekend went on, the more my discernment went on and the more angrier we got. I ended up pulling her and homeschooling her in January, let my other kids finish the rest of the school year. She was so traumatized by this that it made her lose all trust in adults period. So we ended up going and I homeschooled her, de-schooled her from January to the end of the school year and then, come fall, started homeschooling my other children as well.
Speaker 2:It was one of those things where I just knew that there was no way that we could recover from that. I knew that there was no way that I could ever possibly even think about putting her back in a situation and circumstance where she had lost all trust. And it was really sad to me because again, this is supposed to be a Christian adult teacher that it was their word against hers and I absolutely, under no circumstances would ever believe anybody over my own children, so I don't really know. They never told us what happened. Actually, in the circumstances. I wanted the person to be let go and that didn't happen.
Speaker 2:As a matter of fact, my daughter even got in the car after we had this talk and this whole meeting with the staff and everything, and she was supposed to get a verbal apology at the very least, and she didn't really even get that, wow. And so she got in the car at age eight and said Mom, they didn't apologize to me and I said you're exactly right and I'm so sorry for that sweetheart, and I'm proud to say that even since then she has grown exponentially. God took a really could have been a very traumatizing and bad situation and he made it good. He literally made beauty from ashes. I've watched my child go from ground level of zero confidence and not trusting anyone to. She is now back into what she loves, which is dance.
Speaker 2:She's always danced since she was four and she has gotten back to a point of I mean, just God has turned so many things around and I've watched it right before my eyes and even my husband is like we've got our daughter back, so a beautiful thing came out of that.
Speaker 1:But my kids let me just say I've had the pleasure of spending multiple days with her four children, and when I say that these children are, I mean they just set the bar for how children can and should be just helpful and loving and caring and compassionate and so smart and so inquisitive and just all the things that you would hope your children would be. I mean, there's no words to even describe how wonderful these children are. And how were they before homeschooling?
Speaker 2:You know it's funny. It's so funny because when I first started homeschooling, you know I'm gonna get real raw and relevant with you. So I'm sorry, I don't have tissues. Yeah, I'm a crier. I'll just say this Okay, I am going to get really raw and relevant with you. This is something that happened very shortly after I started homeschooling my kids the first year. We were like, okay, we're just going to learn all together and we're just going to go through this and it's a trial and error thing. And I got told that I remember one of the homeschool moms actually the one that I had this revelation at the retreat and God planted that in my heart. I remember her telling me if and when you decide, because she knew after I had that she kind of knew she's like you're going to end up homeschooling at some point and I was like, no, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:That's great, that sounds great and all, but yeah, never, never, never.
Speaker 2:So I remember her telling me you just have to give yourself a lot of grace. And that word was something that I was like I don't even know how I'm going to do this, so I don't even know how to ask God to give me the grace for that, because I didn't know what I was getting myself into. And when I first started another homeschool mom, we met up and it was like a field trip, one of our field trips, and she said your kids are so great with other younger kids and you know, I'm going to be honest with you I did not realize until that moment how difficult it was for me to receive compliments about my own children, I mean y'all. I literally teared up on the way home because I thought to myself she's telling me this Because how many of you know that a lot of times kids will listen to other moms before they will listen to you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's because they get so comfortable with us and they get so like they take for granted. The fact, and what I've seen in the biggest transition, is that before homeschooling I didn't get to see my kids often as much as I do now. Every morning my kids run in, they jump in bed with me and we cuddle and we actually get to spend that time together, that quality time together, and it makes them appreciate me so much more and it makes me able to actually accept the compliments about my kids, because of course, we think our kids are amazing.
Speaker 1:Of course we're biased. Can we just contrast that with what it's like when you're rushing?
Speaker 2:Yes, that was the biggest thing for me. I remember literally every morning when we were at this school having to drag my children out of bed. They were, everybody was frazzled, all upset before we even get on the school grounds, okay, and I would literally drive down the street like 10 or 15 minutes away, pull over beside the road and literally, like my heart wrenched Cause I was like there has to be something better than this because it had made me become resentful of my own children.
Speaker 1:And then they're gone all day. Yes, and they come back, yes, and now they're bothering you about homework.
Speaker 2:Oh, it doesn't even start there it's like why were you at school all day?
Speaker 2:It doesn't even start there For us. It started in the car line. I'm sitting in the car line. I'm sitting in the car, so you know you get there early because you want to be the first ones in car line, because you have to rush to whatever else is going on.
Speaker 2:That evening my children played volleyball, baseball and softball at the same time. We were all four of them at the same time played for one season. We literally lived at the ball field. But it was like, and then you don't even get to appreciate them as much as you want to, because you are literally like does everyone have their stuff? Does everyone have this? If you don't have this, we have to run back home, we have to grab this. And then by the time you get them to the practice that they're going to, you sit in the car again and start to tear up again because you're wondering how are we going to get out of here and get dinner and get homework done? Homework is a whole other subject of that. It was horrific, literally, and we were just, we were barely surviving.
Speaker 1:I'm getting stressed and anxious just hearing you talk about it. Yes, I know a mom who spends four hours a day, every day, in car line pickups.
Speaker 2:It really is, and I know that there are moms out there and, by the way, this is not what I norm do, and so Maria is like let's talk about these things. It's not always been the easiest thing for me. Homeschool has pushed me out of my comfort zone in order to even share this with you. But I know that. I know because I had conversations with other moms before I decided to step out in faith to homeschool my own children. Again, I was that mom that said never, ever. And then I took the first step and literally the next year, four or five of the teachers that worked at this school and had been there from the very beginning homeschooled their kids too, literally, pulled them out and homeschooled their kids too, was it?
Speaker 1:because of your example or was it because you started a trend? I don't know if it was really because you started a trend or was it because the energy shifted.
Speaker 2:But I really did and I ran into them and they were like, yeah, we heard you did this and how are you doing? And I'm like it's great and like, yeah, I don't know if it was me, it definitely wasn't on me, it was definitely a God thing.
Speaker 1:I know it was a shift in the atmosphere that reminds me of a really funny story I'm going to share real quick. So one of the reasons that I wanted to homeschool was because when I was in 10th grade, my teacher was a math teacher and God bless her. I raised my hand during the middle of a very complicated math sequence she was teaching us and I just asked the simple question where in real life will we use this? Because I was genuinely interested to know so I can file that away in my memory. And she got upset at me asking the question. So I put my hand down and just let it go, realizing that I'll never again use this and that what I'm learning is pointless.
Speaker 1:Fast forward until 16 months ago when I was at the Abundant Life maternity for my midwife appointment. And who comes walking in? My 10th grade math teacher? And I said hey, and she was pregnant with her fourth. And I'm like, oh, are you still teaching? She's like no, I homeschool all of them. And I was like, wow, in my head I'm like you're one of the reasons, many reasons that I do homeschool.
Speaker 2:Yes, I mean really. And again, I you know if you can giggle with this this is my biggest thing. I even come across moms now that are like you, homeschool all four of your children and I'm like, yes, and they literally I know that deep down, when I'm having these conversations with them and they're giving me that look of like a puzzled look on their face, like how do you do that? I know that deep down because I was in their spot and deep down I know that every single mother out there wants more time with their children. I know that, I know that and they mother out there wants more time with their children.
Speaker 2:I know that, I know that and they may not be willing to admit it. Maybe they're in a career and they have that mommy guilt of like career versus family. That's a big conversation, a big topic, I know, but I do know that they deep down and so I always tell them, like you know what, it may not be for everyone, but I do know that we do, like you, blink, we were talking about it today. Don't blink, because it goes by so fast. And I just didn't realize what I didn't know. I didn't realize what I didn't know that I didn't have, until I stepped out in faith and did, and now my husband was one of those kids or one of those husbands that said we're never going to homeschool because homeschool kids are freaks of nature.
Speaker 1:We're never doing that, that was literally what he said.
Speaker 2:Okay, however, funny enough, a couple of days, a couple of weeks ago, all my kids, we were somewhere and we were eating lunch, like in the middle of the day because we can do that when you homeschool but we were learning about all the things, a salesperson came in for the restaurant we were at and this is funny because they were talking to my teenager and they were like oh, oh, you must not have school today. Are you playing hooky from school today? And I was like no, we homeschool and it's so funny the looks they get. And then my kids, when we get back in the car, they're like why do people look at us like that now? And they're like are they kidding? Like do they even know what kind of life we live now? So my kids to say that now is so funny to me. So my husband, on the other hand, he did say that Now he says something totally different. And my kids do too.
Speaker 2:In the beginning they were like mom, how can you be our teacher? And I was like do you realize? I've been your teacher since you were born, since you literally left my womb. We're teachers, we are their teachers, everything they've ever learned from how to tie their shoe, to how to eat with a fork and a spoon, to how to speak, to how to talk, to how to communicate their needs. All comes from who? Yeah, that would be us, we're the mom, we're the teacher. And so it wasn't until I actually thought about that. I was like, well, I have always been your teacher. And then telling them that, and then seeing that, then really seeing that, because now they really realize that we really are.
Speaker 1:And it's very funny because the Bible doesn't say to put your children in government school. The Bible actually says in Proverbs 22, six train up your children in the way they should go, and even when they're old they will not depart from it. That's a directive to parents to train up their children.
Speaker 2:Yes, and we are and my husband again the one that said never, ever right. So we were on our way home, driving home one night. This is back when we were still at the school. This is right before the incident happened with my daughter. This was right before the holiday season. And then we came back.
Speaker 2:The first week of January is when I pulled her. So we literally were on our way home and he said I started crying Like he's driving in the car in front of me we're on our way back from a company party and I started literally just bawling because it had been the worst day ever, like I had been called up to the school. One of my kids got hurt in PE. Multiple things happened that one day. I had to rush home, I had to get them situated to be watched so I could go meet him at his job, to go to this really important party, this revealing party. And we're driving home I'm crying because I knew the next day was Friday and I still had to get up and do this again the next day and so I just got silent.
Speaker 2:And he said what's wrong? And I said I said it's just been a really hard day and I just started bawling and he said if you want to homeschool our kids, I will support you 150%. And then I wasn't just crying, I was literally sobbing because I kind of got a little angry in that moment because I'm like you're supposed to say no to this. You're the one I thought I could count on to say no. But he had gotten to the point where he saw me break down so much and he saw how it was impacting and affecting our kids in such a negative way that I think he finally just said you know what I feel like you're going to do this anyway. So he literally just gave in to what he kind of knew was on my heart this entire time.
Speaker 1:What was that like? Was that like a rush of relief? Or what was that feeling? What was that like? Was that like a rush of relief?
Speaker 2:or what was that feeling? It was one of those things where I always cry when I know that it's confirmation, not something new, when I know that God's already told me. So it was like I went back to that moment of when I know that he planted that seed in my heart, the desire and the passion and what I wanted that I didn't even know that I wanted that was confirmation for me. When he said that to me, it was like God telling me I spoke this to you, I told you this, and that was two or three years prior to that. So this is really like God was preparing me. He was preparing me for this.
Speaker 1:So a lot of mothers would love to homeschool but have no idea what the first step is to take or like what co-ops to be part of, or all the curriculums are so overwhelming. And do we do virtual or do we do a hybrid? Walk us through what worked for your family and because you have, you have different ages. You have a teenager, you have a preteen, you have. I do, tell me their ages first.
Speaker 2:So I literally have one in every single level. I have a high schooler who's going to be a junior next year. Let's not even talk about that because I don't even want to talk about that. I have a 12-year-old who is in the thick of going into seventh grade. Eighth grade was the absolute worst year of our entire life. I literally almost lost my entire family, including my marriage, all because of eighth grade. Eighth grade was just horrific. And then I also have twins who are elementary, about to go into junior. Well, they're going into fifth grade this next year, but then junior high comes, and so literally I knew that I could not continue to have the other three follow up with what we had already went through. Yeah, so what were their ages when you started homeschooling? So we are going on our third year in homeschooling, the first year we started.
Speaker 2:Again, I just knew in the back of my mind that I had to give myself a lot of grace Because, again, I am not one of those moms that would say that I am the best at organization. I'm a kind of like we're going to just kind of do this together and we're going to figure it out as we go, and I'm just going to trust that God knows what we're doing, because he told me to do this and I'm just kind of obedient like that way. I'm just like okay, god, here you go. You told me to do this, this is what we're doing, and that's kind of. I just had such a great group of prayer warriors. Really, god had been preparing me for this for years, because he knows that I'm a little stubborn in that, like, if he tells me to do something, I'm one of those people that I've done a lot of negotiating with God in my life.
Speaker 1:If I'm being honest, Like Jonah, he's like do you really want me to go to Nineveh or I went the other way? Let me just go, Let me go the easy route.
Speaker 2:Funny, we've been talking about Jonah and Abraham and how they were partially obedient. I've done a lot of partial obedience in my life and I'm going to be really honest. So, yeah, I and.
Speaker 2:I just have learned, but really the biggest thing was the word grace. I made sure that I gave myself a lot of grace and I didn't even really truly understood what that even meant until we were about second year. In Going into this third year, I come across moms that are like they've always had this little idea, but they're stepping into this for the first time. What I would say is, again, give yourself a lot of grace. Know that it's going to probably change multiple times, so you cannot, it's not something you can plan out.
Speaker 2:Each one of my children have been through we've already been through multiple different curriculums, and you know what? If it doesn't work, we just throw it out and we start over and it's, it's fine, it's all fine. The biggest thing, course, direct. Oh, absolutely. You know my husband is a project manager and literally he has to have a checklist for everything and so and I'm not that, I'm the total opposite of that Isn't it wonderful that God gives us spouses that are completely opposites of us? Because and he does that for a reason I know he does because we, we sharpen each other and we help each other on that Josh and I literally just had this conversation today.
Speaker 1:I'm like I am so grateful that you have such a strong sense of discernment of people, because I'm so trusting and you can be like have totally different motives and yeah, that's why I really rely on him for discernment, because I can't tell the motives up front, and he definitely can. There's been many times in our relationship of seven years that he knew someone was wrong and I just didn't think anything of it, just kept going about my merry way and then it bit me in the butt later. Oh, and I have a story for that one.
Speaker 2:So the question was let's go back to it. What would I? How would I encourage someone that's walking in first time coming into homeschooling? I had a very dear friend who I knew years before I said yes to homeschooling and she, she basically just gave me this one piece of advice and I took it and I ran with it. She said you have to know your true why.
Speaker 2:And I sat with that for a little bit because, again, I was just being obedient to God, so I really didn't know what my true why was. I just knew that he put this in me so he's going to help me through this. But when I sat down and I really really started to think about what is the real why, and I started to really just get really honest with God, like asking God, like you know, what is this? Why do I want this for our family? Why? He has literally shown me every step of the way, every single desire of my heart that I didn't even know was there. So get clear on your why. And then you monitor and you change it as you go, so he'll reveal things to you. You monitor and you change it as you go, so he'll reveal things to you, he'll show you and he'll direct you as to fulfilling that actual, true why?
Speaker 2:But I always come back, and every year I always come back and I always revisit that question and then I lay out what that looks like for this next school year. And so I do that and we talk about it, and I talk about it with my kids. That's another thing. Having the opportunity to be able to be real and relevant with your kids and be able to have those actual, very important conversations has been priceless to me. Not only the hugs in the morning, but the actual time to be able to sit and just ask them, like, what is it that they wanna know more about? I wanna get into their world, because they're only here for a short period of time and then they go off into the world and we want to make sure that we. You know that's one thing that we didn't have growing up. I tell my kids all the time, you know you're very, very blessed because we kind of wish that we had us as parents.
Speaker 1:I told you all the time I said I want to be my kids, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:So I would say grace, lots of grace. Get clear on your why and always revisit that why, and it is. It could shift and change a little bit, but always come up, come back to that, because that's the true heart of why you're doing what you're doing and why you're trying to leave a legacy.
Speaker 1:So, Candice, for the moms that would say you don't know my kids, they don't listen to me. What would you say to them?
Speaker 2:I've heard that too and I will say homeschooling is not easy. I would definitely say it's not easy, but I would take many a days of not easy homeschool days than I would going back to the hustle and bustle of the hard of not, and that is hands down. I tell everybody that. So, yeah, you're going to have those days where your kids, you know, for whatever reason they don't, but the great thing is they're not stuck behind a desk, they're not stuck inside of four walls and we go outside and we literally touch grass, or we go outside and I give them you know, I give them a scripture, or I read them a story of the Bible and I ask them to tell me what their feedback is on that. What do you think that that person was thinking when this happened? And I have them use their creativity. I mean.
Speaker 2:God made us in such a brilliant way and they were not being able to utilize the gifts and talents and the passions that God put in their heart. And being able to find that and to cultivate that and to direct them like. Our word this year is discipleship and we are solely focused on that. That is our word for the year, this year in homeschool. So find a word, find a why, stick to it and really cultivate that throughout the year.
Speaker 1:Amen, yeah, amen, amen. And speaking about the word, because words are important and it's important that we change the conversation around home education. Yes, and I like home education. My friend, sam Sorbo. She homeschools her three children. They're brilliant. They're all young adults now. She's an actress and a author and her husband was Kevin Sorbo from Hercules. They're the couple who actually baptized us in the Jordan, in Israel, on a trip. But she said don't call it homeschooling because we're not trying to recreate school at home. Call it home education because you are the educators of your children. Yes, so moving forward on this podcast I need to get better at it, but changing the conversation around homeschooling as home education.
Speaker 2:That's good, and I have heard that, and I have to catch myself sometimes too, because I still use that verbiage as well. Again, still learning. We're going into our third year and I'm still learning. I'm still. We are still literally like we just changed my other kid into another curriculum this year for math because he was getting bored of what he was doing and he's brilliant at math.
Speaker 2:But I'm like the great news and the awesome thing is is you get to take a break this year. So before you start going into wanting to do dual enrollment and all these things like, take a break. It's great, you get to be a kid this year and you get to take a breather from math and it's fine. And he was like I can do that and I'm like, yes, you can.
Speaker 1:You absolutely can.
Speaker 2:And so yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yes, and let's talk about how, at school, the extracurricular activities are the things that children actually get excited about and those are just like the little things that they do on the back of it. But when you home educate, you're able to make those extracurriculars the whole focus. So you have a child interested in playing guitar and singing, you can cultivate that gift. You have a dancer, you can cultivate it. You have a soccer player, a horseback rider, whatever their passion is, you can cultivate that as a good gardener and grow that word in their soul to produce a fruit, yes, and they have the freedom to be able to even dream those things.
Speaker 2:That's the beautiful part. We were at an art school and literally that's why we put our, we put our children there, because it was supposed to be a whole child education. We love that aspect, but then it started not being that anymore and I love the fact that I mean my kids have even I mean my daughter. We went on a trip and she was around other kids who are it was a deaf community and she had never been around that before. This is just an example.
Speaker 2:And we come back from this trip, from summer trip, summer before this last, and she literally said Dad, I want to take ASL. Wow, and we didn't even like it didn't dawn on us that she even knew what that was and she's struggled with reading. And I was like that makes perfect sense, Because the way that her brain works, American Sign Language would be perfect for her, because the way that her brain works, American Sign Language would be perfect for her. And how beautiful is it that she literally picked up on something on a trip where she came back and said, oh, I want to take that as a class and we found her an ASL class to take, and she loved every second of it, and this is something we would have never known, that she would have even been interested in.
Speaker 2:Because you wouldn't have the time to discover what your interests are Absolutely, and it made her then want to take it again. And she found out she could take that as a language for high school, because we're the ones who accumulate everything for her transcripts and I didn't even know that. So I'm learning still, but all those things like that's just an example of the many things that they are able to pick up on and learn. And then, oh, she wants to. My kids all have entrepreneur mindset they always have, but not being able to actually dream and cultivate those creativities and things that they have already innately in them and now being able to because of the time that they have already innately in them and now being able to because of the time that they have and the freedom and flexibility they have to do that.
Speaker 1:Let's just talk about the fact that you literally live north of Orlando and during the week, on a Friday, you drove down here to spend the day and then you spent the night. And then today we had the opportunity to go to the beach to enjoy nature, and then we went to the Faith Family Night at Roger Dean Stadium and your son had the opportunity of a lifetime. Tell us more of that, okay.
Speaker 2:So pulled my son after his eighth grade year and literally his words to me were after his eighth grade year and literally his words to me were you're ruining my life, mom. You're pulling me before I go into high school. Okay, this is how much our children have been indoctrinated to think the thought of the fear of missing out.
Speaker 1:Has anyone ever heard of that?
Speaker 2:Okay, I didn't even dawn on me that this is what this was. Literally, those were the words he said to me. This is what this was Literally. Those were the words he said to me and literally within a month, he's changed his complete dialogue. Now, if you ask him if he wants to go back to school, he tells you no, not even, not even close. You want to know why. He wants to be a praise and worship artist, and he would have never had the opportunity, the time and the freedom and flexibility to actually take advantage of opportunities that meet him if we were still there in those four walls eight hours a day and I know that's a story.
Speaker 1:How did he discover his God-given calling and purpose and mission?
Speaker 2:You know, I actually got saved when I was 13 as well, which I think is a beautiful thing I've. I've watched my son from a very young age have a very, very big gifting of discernment as well, and I remember I went and picked him up. It was the first time that I let him go to a church camp for a week and I went to pick him up and I was so excited because I pulled in the parking lot two o'clock in the morning and he jumps out. He's like, it's like I don't even know, he's just on another whole level of Holy Spirit and he said mom, I know what I want to do when I grow up and I was like you do what?
Speaker 2:And he's like I God told me that I am supposed to go into praise and worship and I'm going to be a praise and worship artist and I was like I literally teared up, Of course, I cried, Of course, and literally multiple opportunities that he has had, like today, where he's like mom, you just never know who you're going to meet. And I've told my kids that I've always told them to go where you're celebrated and not just tolerated. And when we were in school my kids were just being tolerated. Let that sink in for just a second.
Speaker 2:My daughter was told from kindergarten all the way through second grade, she's doing great, she's doing fine, she's doing wonderful. And at the end of second grade they tell us oh, we think she may have dyslexia. I'm like, wait what? No red flags, no bad marks on any report card ever. What do you mean? Come to find out she does have auditory processing delay and she had gotten so self-conscious about standing up and attempting to read that her confidence level had went to the ground. Then you throw the episode in on top of that and the hospitalization and everything else. Let me just tell you my kids were not being celebrated anymore.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:And who better to celebrate our kids Than ourselves Than?
Speaker 1:ourselves who love them?
Speaker 2:who know them, who know them literally almost as well as our Heavenly Father knows them.
Speaker 1:The hairs on their head.
Speaker 2:I tell my kids that all the time, and to watch my 16-year-old now be able to fully step into the gifts and talents that God's given him. It's just it. Just it fills my mom heart like nothing else.
Speaker 1:What was your reaction today when he met an artist who literally wants to take him under his wing, and he prayed for him.
Speaker 2:Okay, Mamas like you know that we will do anything for our kids, especially if we know that it is like they get so fueled and so passionate about it. I'm a very passionate person. My kids will tell you, even my 16 year old after we started homeschooling. He's like mom, you should really stop saying that, cause when you say things, they just happen and I'm like that's a compliment. Thank you, yeah, I said, but you realize that you can do the same right, and so teaching your kids that they can actually stand in authority because of who they are in Christ has been one of the biggest blessings. To be able to literally teach them the word every day first, that's what we do first. Every day, we do that first.
Speaker 2:But watching him today have the confidence to walk up and to be able to have a conversation and, in all of five minutes, get a artist, a free, single artist, to give his information, to become a mentor to my son, he was blown away. My son was like he got in the car and he was just like wow, mom, god is so good. Like how did you? And it's all because he wanted a jersey. I was asking if there's any way we could get this jersey just to commemorate, this week, being able to come here and be with our friends and come to an event we didn't even know was taking place. And this is a radio station that we listen to all the time, and he loves music, and so I was going to do whatever it took to get him a jersey, had I not just asked.
Speaker 1:Ask and you shall receive. I tell my kids that all the time, knock and the door shall be opened. How many of us don't receive because we don't ask, because we don't look, because we don't knock?
Speaker 2:Being able to teach your kids that, and literally them seeing it come to fruition, is absolutely probably been the most biggest joy of my life being their homeschool educator 20 years from now, when your son recounts the days that completely directed the course of his life, I believe today was one of them.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, absolutely, teaching them to be able to manifest and speak into existence, and just believing in that, their faith level has soared. And all because I just was obedient to God and the desire he put in my heart that I didn't even know was there, just yes, yes, lord, yes, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, Proverbs 3, 5,. I trust in the Lord with all my heart. I lean not upon my own understanding. In all of my ways I acknowledge Him and he directs my paths.
Speaker 2:Absolutely 150%. So yeah, I it just. It makes my heart so full, I just it fuels me to absolutely know that we are doing kingdom work.
Speaker 1:Let's talk for a minute about how you now control the environment that your children grow in. Yes, yes, so there was voices before speaking into them, oh, absolutely so.
Speaker 2:One of the biggest things at the school we were previously at I noticed again it wasn't being Holy Spirit led anymore, it was more of do as I say and not as I do wasn't being Holy Spirit led anymore, it was more of do as I say and not as I do. Really sad. But a lot of the teachers not all of them, but a lot of the teachers were trying to be these kids' friends. They were not doing their job fully and with integrity. I mean, really they weren't. There was times that my oldest would not get his grades until like 24 hours before grades were due. And if we're going to be doing all the work at home that we're literally paying for in a private school, then I was like why can't I do this myself? Like really, like what are we doing? That's that was the question. Me and my husband just looked at each other every single time. Something happened. What?
Speaker 2:are we doing and yeah, god was like the truth is we're so brainwashed, right? Yes, we're indoctrinated Absolutely, and I've learned that through conversations through other mamas who have been homeschooling for many more years than I have just really listening to all of the advice and the do's and the don'ts and the tried, that and that worked or that didn't work, and really just the community, the surrounding of, just the impact in the community has been very huge.
Speaker 1:Would you suggest that mamas jump into different groups mom groups, homeschool groups and just test the waters?
Speaker 2:I would say, yes, you do, and it's not a, you know, it depends on what it is. Again, another mom told me this, and I really took this under consideration too it's that not everything works for every family, because not every child is the same. Right, every one of my children have similar things that they have in common, but they are all very unique and different in the way that they learn, in the way that they think, in their likes and dislikes. I even have twins that are totally opposites of each other. But, yeah, it's definitely one of those things where you have to, you have to find your tribe. You really have to find what works for you and if you, can't find your tribe.
Speaker 1:What should you do next? You're going to maybe go there. Right, I'm good at leading, yes.
Speaker 2:Okay. So recently, yes, we had something come up again and it's funny because my husband was like I thought that maybe a couple months into this you were going to be like okay, we kind of need to start our own thing, because I've always been a leader like that and he kind of already knew. So it's kind of funny.
Speaker 1:Leaders can only follow for so long it is true.
Speaker 2:I heard this years ago, years and years ago, from one of my mentors Strong leaders can only be led by strong leaders, and my children are extremely strong leaders and I've known that because I'm their mom. But I've seen that even more so since we have been in home education because it is so more prevalent when you start to see that.
Speaker 2:It's in your face every day and you realize it. So recently we decided we are working towards a big God dream, and this is a dream that, again, didn't know that was a dream Well, kind of did but we had an opportunity or actually it wasn't an opportunity. This was an incident that happened where we thought we had found our tribe and once again, I just decided to just be completely obedient to God, and God was calling us to more, and so we are in the process of creating what we feel is the best thing for our family and for many other families out there. What we have been a part of is great, but we still felt that there is a certain demographic and in conversations talking with other families, other moms, they're looking for more for their families and they're looking for something that doesn't quite exist yet and we have a God story because after I posted about starting a homeschool co-op, you woke up that morning.
Speaker 2:Sure about that? Okay, so the incident that happened, it was I started journaling and just praying about it because I still wasn't quite sure. You know, cause I'm that one that likes to kind of negotiate with God sometimes. But I knew that there was more and that was something that we needed to step out of our comfort zone and really kind of start our own thing. And I actually started journaling about this and it was based on can I share? Like, okay, yes, so it's based on a movie. If you haven't seen this movie, it's a great date night movie.
Speaker 1:It's a great family movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a great family movie, christian movie. It's called like arrows and it is literally the story of a couple from the beginning all the way through to their 50th anniversary and coincidentally, in this story there are four children, mm-hmm. And I had been journaling about this, thought about this movie. God laid it on my heart and it's like, okay, okay, god, if this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to be obedient in this, it's got to be based on this movie, because this movie gripped my heart and it was right around the same timeframe that actually he planted that desire in my heart to homeschool. So this all kind of goes together. But I woke up the next morning after I prayed about this, journaled and dreamed with God, and I wake up and I see that my dear friend Maria literally had the same download from the Holy spirit. You cannot make this up. You cannot make this up. I was like are you kidding me? I literally started tearing up because she's like no surprise there.
Speaker 2:I know she literally started the same, like we had the same exact thought based on the same movie. Now, mind you, none of this had I shared with anyone but God. Okay, so there's no way, there's no. I don't believe in coincidences, I believe in divine appointment, but definitely was one of those moments where, again, it was confirmation. So I start tearing up and crying again and literally, literally, it's the exact same idea behind it.
Speaker 2:And when I was praying about this and journaling this this is true too I heard God tell me that it was not going to be just here, this was going to be worldwide, and I knew that it was going to be a collaboration and a partnership. This has nothing to do with me, it has everything to do with him. I literally just knew that. I knew that I wanted to be the one to lead and lead the way, to point other homeschool educators to him, other homeschool educators to him. I want it to be all about him.
Speaker 2:And actually, years ago years ago, you know New Year's resolutions, but I don't call them that, I call them visions for visions for the year. God laid it on my heart, actually, the word him, this was, years ago like to focus only on him and literally it came back into my thoughts when I was like I'm doing this for you, god, I literally want everybody to be pointed to you. I want these kids to be. We're discipling them to point everything to you, to give you all the glory. I want nothing of me and everything of you in this. And it was just so beautiful because I called her.
Speaker 1:I was like we got to connect, because I got to tell you this. You're trying to say it in a simple text and it was like I can't. It was like a rushing wave like it was like through text like we gotta talk, we just gotta talk all of a sudden.
Speaker 2:All of a sudden and literally it has been an all of a sudden thing, and so we are in the process of starting a. It's just a support group at the moment, but it is based on this movie and it is based on just the beautiful story of this, this family and and what God placed in my heart years and years and years ago, and it's now just coming to fruition. And we had no idea that this, the circumstances were going to be the way that they are. But my husband grabbed my hand and he said so are we?
Speaker 2:doing this Are we doing this? And I and that was confirmation started crying again because I'm like doing what? And he's like, oh, I think you already know. And I'm like, yes, I do. So we, we literally were thinking the same exact things, and I did not even tell him what I had on my heart, and it ended up being that he literally laid everything in black and white in my hand. And so, again, confirmation, more and more confirmation, and we have four arrows that we're launching into the world, and I'm really excited about what's coming with that. So stay tuned if you want to know more about that.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, you will hear more about that, don't you worry. Last topic I want to cover before we wrap this up we only have a few more minutes.
Speaker 1:I want to talk about discipline, because your children are older now, but in the beginning years you had to discipline them, right? Yes? So two verses I want to say Proverbs 22, 15. You just got to love the book of Proverbs. Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far away. And then Proverbs 13, 24,. Whoever spares the rod hates their children. But the one who loves them is diligent about discipline. So speak about those two verses.
Speaker 2:So that is something that we are always a work in progress, right? Because my children are very strong willed, very strong willed, you know, they're persistent and that was a that actually in school. Funny enough, in school that was the biggest problem for them. It was more of they just didn't have the right leadership and it went from like the top down and it was evidently clear, from the admin all the way down, and it was one of those things where, like, I feel like what was I talking about earlier? I told you I was going to mention this because I said it to my children.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, so the biggest part in our family that we always are constantly working on is delayed obedience, is still disobedience, and because I I too have such a strong personality and seeing that in my children as well, that's something that I personally have had to learn, okay, multiple times. I have had to learn multiple times, and so now, as I've grown in my spiritual walk, being able to actually teach that to my children has been even difficult for me. You know, like those moms that say, oh well, my kids, they don't like I could not do that because my kids don't listen. I just have to encourage you that you just have to give it. You have to like, literally lay it in God's hands and say, like God, I'm just giving this to you today, I'm giving this situation to you, I'm giving it, and that's what I teach my kids now too, and I say, okay, but delayed disobedience is still disobedience. And so you have to be, you have to know and you have to be willing to be immediate, immediate obedience, immediate.
Speaker 2:You know, we'd always feel like we don't always feel like it is. Even as a homeschool, a mom that does school at home, we don't always feel like it. Even as a mom that does school at home, we don't always feel like it. There's days we wake up and we're like, okay, we really don't feel like doing all the things today, and then sometimes the kids give you just, it's a hard day, and when we do that, we put on praise and worship music and we go back to the word, do that we just, we, we put on praise and worship music and we go back to the word and I say, okay, but you know, but disobedience is still delayed, disobedience is still disobedience. And so I really try to drive that into my children and they've learned. They have learned, you know, because you know we have fleet freedom and flexibility, but we also still have to be disciplined.
Speaker 1:In that Good stewards of the time. Good stewards of the time.
Speaker 2:But the good news is, if you don't get it done then then you can do it another time. That's fine. As long as you still do it, though, the point is that you're still obeying and you're still doing. You still have the discipline to do those things. So, yeah, I always tell them like Delay, even earlier we had a situation where they're learning, they're still learning, and then giving them credit for that, just saying thank you, I appreciate you being immediately obeying.
Speaker 1:Yes, I was hearing you conversate with your 10-year-old and when I just heard you say thank you so much for obeying immediately, it just struck a chord in me. I was like, wow, that is such a good thing that you're teaching them about immediate obedience, because they're hearing the word of God and doing it.
Speaker 2:Yes. Another thing I always tell my kids is obedience equals blessings, and it is true. And then another friend of mine told me well, but the blessings part we need to also tell may not always look the way that we want it to look either. So just because we're getting blessings, those blessings may be very different than what we are expecting or what we think. And so my kids have also learned that through the homeschool they are the home education they are learning that God has bigger, better plans and sometimes what we think it's going to look like, he blesses us even more.
Speaker 2:Yes, he blesses us even more, and he's always faithful, always, no matter what, every single circumstance, even the traumatic circumstances that we went through. I am so sad that my children had to walk through that, but at the same time God has brought so much beauty from that. We would not be able to be here visiting with friends, to be able to have all the experiences, all the opportunities that have come our way. God has just blessed us more and more and more in that obedience of walking, in that obedience.
Speaker 1:I just love that we earlier, we were able to say what do you want to do tomorrow? Oh, can we go see the sea turtles? And just to have the ability to dream and not be like, oh, we got to get home because we got to get ready for school. Tomorrow, we got tests and projects. I remember being up until the wee hours of the night and morning studying for tests, doing projects, and just to not have that pressure and that anxiety.
Speaker 1:Generational curses let's talk about generational anxiety, depression, all the things that come with schoolwork car pickup lines, tests, tests, who's testing who and why? Yes, yes, as an adult, amen. If we're telling our children that we are preparing them for the real world by doing tests, how is that preparing them for the real world? And when are you being tested as an adult? Right, except through certain things. But we're not. We're not getting an ABCDEFG, whatever on our work every day. Now, if you have a nine to five job, that could look like what school looks like, but if you're an entrepreneur, there is nothing about the school system that is any way attractive to an entrepreneur, because an entrepreneur does not operate in a school mindset. An entrepreneur operates as a home educated mindset, because an entrepreneur will study the things. That coincides with what our interests are.
Speaker 2:Yes, absolutely, and my kids have all I mean they they've thought of their own businesses that they want to start, and being able to do that, like just being able to dream, like that, I mean just the fact that your son said that he did a gifting testing and the test said that he would really do well as a realtor.
Speaker 1:and for him to say can I shadow you as a realtor?
Speaker 2:Yes, I mean even that, like even even coming in, saying having again the confidence, the ability, the opportunity to be able to have that conversation with you and your husband, to even be able to do that, meeting an artist today and you know that's his dream and his passion, but he's got to have something to actually feed and to fund the passion right? So we were talking about that and, yeah, having a conversation like a full-on adult conversation with you the whole entire weekend, about coming down and helping.
Speaker 1:These are conversations that 25-year-olds after college and whatnot finally get to think about. He's only 16. Okay, so he's literally getting a decade headstart on his life. That by the time he's 18, 20, 21, I mean, he'll already be ready for marriage. Right, he can get married whenever he wants. But what I'm saying is he'll be mature enough. How many people are told you're not mature enough to get married?
Speaker 1:You're not financially stable enough to get married. And how many people's lives are just pushed out further and further. And then, when they're in their 30s, they're thinking, oh, I should probably think about getting married, getting a house suddenly down, having kids. And then by that time it's like almost too late. Yeah Right, because the eggs, I mean, the infertility, it's true, I mean.
Speaker 2:It is true and literally. And you know another thing in school you know he was thinking and comparing himself to all of his other friends. They're dating, they're doing all this stuff right. The conversations we've been having lately is you know, mom, I'm worried about that right now because I know that God's going to bring me the right person. I know that I only want to date for marriage. Now, if he was still around comparison mode and all the things, would he be having those conversations? Would he be in life groups and being able to have the time to be in a life group at four o'clock in the afternoon around older and more experienced adults, because that's what he's placing himself around now. He has the freedom and flexibility to be able to do that as well. So, yeah, way ahead of the game. I really, you know, some of us wish that we would have known some of these things when we were that age. The things that actually matter, yeah, that actually are going to prepare him interpersonal skills. He's talked to more people this trip.
Speaker 1:I mean check all the boxes of everything. I know teenagers, I know grade levels, I know elementary kids who are in the system and they don't know how to have a conversation with an adult. And these four children that she's raised. They are so confident, so outgoing, so personable, so well-spoken.
Speaker 2:You know I'm tearing up because you said something to me the other day, maria, and actually I started crying again. She said Candice, I just want to tell you that the fruit is good. I legit sat in the parking lot of Publix and cried. I was like it was one of those moments. It was another one of those moments where I remember like the first week of homeschooling for the very first time. Remember like the first week of homeschooling for the very first time and to have all my kids like run in in the morning and just like jump in bed with me after I got done, having my quiet time, praying, not having to jump out of bed, not having to go drag them out of bed, and they're crying and they don't want to go to school and they don't want to do this, they don't want to do that, they just want to spend time with mom. It was such a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2:And then, not even knowing at that point, like what am I doing? God, I am trusting you, but I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm not even kidding, I was no idea what I'm doing. But then for you to say, candice, the fruit is good. Wow, talk about a full circle, moment of like, not knowing what in the world I'm doing. Half of everybody I know is saying like, thinking I'm crazy, right For doing this, for pulling from our community, the only community we knew since fourth grade.
Speaker 1:My oldest was in fourth grade when we got to that school and then having that moment of just somebody else giving that compliment to you, you shall judge a tree by its fruit. Yes, and when I see your fruit it's good, and I just had to tell you Because mamas need to know that when they're doing good, that they're recognized for it.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And then the times where your 12-year-old wants to have lifelong conversations with you at 11 o'clock at night. Now, this is our new thing, and so being able to have the time not that we want to stay up that late at night, but being able to have the time to be able to talk with them- You're going to look back on these times.
Speaker 1:It's the best time. It's the best time.
Speaker 2:Or when they get it right, when they get it, when that light bulb comes on and they're like, oh, and they get something, and it's like wow, that moment you just want to bottle it up because would you have ever had any of any other time to to see that, unless you were volunteering or at the school, like to just witness that one moment? You wouldn't, you would not get those times. You'd be yelling at them, hey you got to get to bed. You're going to wake up early Right, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So just moments like that, but thank you for that compliment and again, it's so true and it's great.
Speaker 2:It's something I've grown into and it's sad that we have to grow into being able to accept compliments about our children. Like what in the world have we gotten to where we are not able to even accept? I was in a place, in a space, like I'm being rawly honest with you where I had gotten to a place and space where I could not even accept compliments about my own children. I hope that any of you moms out there that have any kind of tugging on your heart, any least bit of anything tugging on your heart to tell you and any kind of just God dream it's just between you and God. If you have anything in there, just don't take that for granted and do not just step into that. I encourage you to step into that and just trust God fully, be completely obedient, just have your arms out and he will catch you. He will meet you right where you are.
Speaker 2:You don't have to be an educated degree teacher. You do not have to be the world's super mom. You don't have to have it all together. You don't even have to be organized. That is not me. You do not have to be the Pinterest mom or even if you're an Amazon mom. You don't have to be any of those things. All you have to do is say God, I trust you. You're placing this on my heart. Then I'm just going to trust you and I'm just going to do what you have told me to do and I just encourage you, just take the leap. Take the leap. Your kids are worth it. The kingdom impact that you're going to create, the breaking of generational curses over your family and over generations to come, it's all worth it. It's all worth it.
Speaker 1:We trust in the Lord with all of our heart. We lean not upon our own understanding. In all of our ways we acknowledge him and he directs our paths. Candice, it's been an absolute pleasure. You too, my friend. Thank you so much and cheers to having good fruit. And may this fruit just grow and continue. Feed a generation Raising up warriors for the kingdom. Feed a generation Raising up warriors for the kingdom Like arrows, send them out like arrows. She's singing. She's putting me on the spot to sing. It's 1237 AM, by the way, it is it is.
Speaker 2:That's why we're drinking a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1:Like arrows. Oh, send them out like arrows, that's a spark. Good night, good night.
